Florida Backdoor Bill Fails - Source: www.schneier.com - CISO2CISO.COM & CYBER SECURITY GROUP

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Clive Robinson • May 12, 2025 7:10 AM

@ ALL,

Considering the article statement,

“The Social Media Use by Minors bill was “indefinitely postponed” and “withdrawn from consideration” in the Florida House of Representatives earlier this week. Lawmakers in the Florida Senate had already voted to advance the legislation, but a bill requires both legislative chambers to pass before it can become law.”

You have to ask if it was actually “self interest” that tipped the scale to “NO”…

It Ain’t Me – I Ain’t No Senator’s Son • May 12, 2025 7:44 AM

@ Clive Robinson,

You have to ask if it was actually “self interest” that tipped the scale to “NO”…

Of course, the politicians in the USA are even offended when called “Public Servants.”
I think it’s the “servant” part they don’t like, because even they, themselves, know that they are not “servants” but are in it for the connections/ties and a 100 times more in perks than what their official salaries are. I prefer the term PUBLIC LEECHES.

Peter Galbavy • May 12, 2025 9:03 AM

Backdoors should only be allowed when pi can be legislated to be 3.

Clive Robinson • May 12, 2025 10:53 AM

@ Peter Galbavy,

With regards,

“Backdoors should only be allowed when pi can be legislated to be 3.”

Not in Australia… There the writ of “Pustulent Encrusted “Stale White Insipid Males”(PE-SWIM) was made clear by some looser who said,

“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia”

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathematics-dont-apply-here-says-australian-pm/

This was back in 2017, and in due course Malcolm Turnbull PM proved he was a looser in about a year (Aug 2018) he was gone. And got replaced by something even worse “Scotty from Marketing”).

But… Getting back to Pi a lot of people tried geometric tricks to make it not 3.14159… but 3 and an 1/7th or 22/7. Which to use a derogatory Australian phrase,

“Good enough for Government work”

(The US version was “Close enough…” and ment high standards).

But there is a fun “shuffle box” mathematical way of getting Pi to any arbitrary precision. Have a look at,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dTyOl1fmDo

It’s actually a fascinating algorithm.

Who? • May 12, 2025 1:13 PM

@ Clive Robinson

Australia… the country that has ever been “umop apisdn”. 😉

Don’t know a lot about the United States; in my country, an incredibly invasive law that makes our intelligence service spy in the country citizens when they suspect some action against the government interests, did not pass the Senate.

One year later it was approved, this time without consultation, on a sunday morning.

Rontea • May 12, 2025 4:14 PM

Your work in opposing the bill that would have compromised user privacy is greatly appreciated.

lurker • May 12, 2025 6:32 PM

@Bauke Jan Douma

For practical use with hand tools, early Chinese engineers ussed pi=3, or for more precise work sqrt10. In the late Han dynasty Liu Hui independently derived Archimedes polygon method to achieve the figure of 355/113, but this was rejected by most at the time as impractical.

@ALL

The Florida Bill’s LEA backdoor appears to be an amendment as it went thru Senate, added as sub-para 5 in several Sections of the Bill. Also added were: Parents must be able to read all minors’ messages; and no “vanishing” messages for minors. Sub-paras 1 thru 4 of the various sections appear fairly harmless, but big tech would kick and scream at losing a lucrative chunk of their market.

Australia has introduced a law to ban social media for users under 16 years of age. It is supposed to come into effect in December, reportedly to give the tech giants time to work out how to do it. I haven’t read it yet. RZ? New Zealand following suit introduced a private bill which has vamished into the ballot for Members Bills. A usually red-neck talk-back host admitted it was a good idea, but the government had absolutely no way of enforcing it.

‘https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/560770/social-media-restrictions-will-need-to-be-policed-by-government-expert

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